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 Post subject: uTorrent 2.0 To Elimininate The Need For ISP Throttling
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:05 am 
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BitTorrent Inc. is about to launch a completely improved implementation of the BitTorrent protocol that will benefit both users and ISPs. uTorrent 2.0, which is currently being tested by thousands of people, will eliminate the need for ISPs to throttle or stop BitTorrent traffic, and will optimize the download experience for its users.

utorrentISPs have been throttling BitTorrent traffic for years already. Although the true reasons for this are not always clear, some ISPs have argued that a high number of BitTorrent connections are slowing down other applications and traffic.


In early 2007, when network neutrality was still a non-issue for most people, BitTorrent inventor Bram Cohen told us that ISPs should find a way to cope with BitTorrent.

“ISPs have to invest in making their networks better and faster rather than stifling applications which consumers use and love,” he said, while encouraging users to switch to non throttling ISPs if possible, or complain to their ISP’s customer services.

A lot of things have changed in the years that followed. Comcast started to prevent its users from seeding content on BitTorrent, and many other ISPs took similar actions to throttle BitTorrent traffic. As a direct result, network neutrality was placed on the political agenda in many countries. It also inspired BitTorrent Inc. to look for solutions that would eliminate the need for throttling entirely, solving the problem at its root.

This is where uTP comes in. uTP is a new and improved implementation of the BitTorrent protocol which is designed to be network friendly. The current implementation often causes interference with other applications, which is the main reason why ISPs try to slow it down, or even stop it altogether. uTP aims to solve this problem.

With uTP, uTorrent (and the Mainline client) will become network aware by throttling itself if congestion in the network is detected. This will have a huge impact on ISP networks according to Simon Morris, BitTorrent’s VP of Product Management. “If uTP is successful it should result in a multi-billion dollar windfall in terms of savings for ISPs,” Morris told TorrentFreak

This means that the new uTorrent will eliminate the need for ISPs to throttle BitTorrent traffic in their networks. Of course, uTorrent users will also be affected by the new protocol. When needed, uTorrent will decrease the upload or download speed to avoid congestion.

According to Morris it’s mainly the upload speed that will be affected. “The throttling that matters most is actually not so much the download but rather the upload – as bandwidth is normally much lower UP than DOWN, the up-link will almost always get congested before the down-link does,” he explained.

“uTP measures the time a packet takes to get sent from peer A to peer B, so in theory uTP will detect congestion anywhere on that path, although in practice the congestion most often happens somewhere on the first-mile uplink connection.”

So does this mean that the new uTorrent will result in slower download times? Not necessarily. Since there is less congestion, uTorrent users will experience no slowdowns in web-browsing, and ideally less congestion and a more efficient use of the network may result in faster download speeds. uTP is currently being tested in uTorrent v2.0 beta and thus far none of the testers have reported any significant problems.

“There are already a couple of hundred thousand people using our v2.0 beta client, and things seem to be progressing very nicely. Our v2.0 client will initiate outgoing uTP connections by default whenever it can. Previous versions of our clients will accept incoming uTP connections – they just won’t initiate them,” Morris said.

“We’re excited that this creates a better experience for millions of consumers, and it also potentially has a massive impact on ISPs – greatly reducing (even eliminating) any justification to manage or shape BitTorrent traffic and allowing ISP networks to handle more BitTorrent traffic, without resulting congestion forcing capital network upgrades ahead of schedule or the ‘need’ to invest in DPI or other traffic shaping gear.”

It is hard to tell if uTP really is BitTorrent’s savior, but if it lives up to the expectations it will be beneficial to both users and ISPs. The specs for uTP will eventually be open so other clients will have the opportunity to implement it too. However, since uTorrent and the Mainline client together are used by two thirds of all BitTorrent users, the effects should be immediately noticeable to both those users and ISPs.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:22 am 
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Man, I need that beta! Torrents kill my router after a while. Have to reset it in order to get web browsing/DNS back again. Hopefully, this new protocol will at least reduce that and save me buying a new router ;-)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:49 pm 
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when is this being released.My isp throttles my upload speed big time.this would be awsome,but i still have this feeling my isp will still throttle anyway.


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I got it off the uTorrent site earlier today (not long after posting my last message here). Just go there and check through the forums and you'll find stickies for the development versions. I went with the 2.0 beta as it is apparently very stable, but they're on to 2.1 alpha already and that includes even more new features. I just installed over the top of 1.8.4 and all is well.

It does seem to respond to bandwidth being used outside uTorrent a lot better (web, for example), so I'll see how it improves my router situation, but claims that it will stop your ISP from throttling you depend entirely on how your ISP caps/throttles you, so take them with a pinch of salt. Or maybe a handful...

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no client is going to help a cheap router. The problem with cheap routers is they can't handle the amount of connections envolved in torrents due to low memory.


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Yeah, that's what's happening here - too many DNS records, etc. But the annoying thing is that it was a decent £60 or something Belkin router, not really a cheapy thing. Ah well...

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hey thats cool, so you are saying you havent had any problems with the beta!

Im gonna check it out, Im not worried about ISP throtthlng as much as I have a feeling 1.8.3 - 1.8.4 i buggy so it will be nice to see if this works better :)

Edit:

Just after writing this a went to the µtorrent site and saw that there is actually a stable version 1.8.5 released now

µTorrent Stable (1.8.5)

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English (US) - October 29, 2009


So Im gonna check that first :)

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