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 Post subject: Re: Chael Sonnen Fails His UFC 117 Drug Test, Positive for PEDs
PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:13 pm 
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Isn't it possible to affect your natural steroid levels, by the amount of sex you have?
cause these 'steroids' are made in your balls right?
so after having allot of sex your balls get dried out (sorry I don't know how to aptly express myself)
and then your body naturaly produces quite allot of new hormones, which will get this level higher than normal.
after which it will decrease again and rise again, like a sine function with decreasing amplitude.
so this could be a possibility right? that what I thought of sean sherk when he was in inside mma a while ago.
but I'm not sure I'm right, and that would make an excuse for every cheater also, I guess.
Hope it's because of shit like that, because I hate it when atletes ain't true.

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 Post subject: Re: Chael Sonnen Fails His UFC 117 Drug Test, Positive for PEDs
PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:06 pm 
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Just to comment on the "drying out your balls" thing.. No you can't affect the amount of "steroids" in your body by having sex.. Some people naturally have a bigger amount of testosterone, but that would not show up as a positive on a PED test.. And when you have sex, or "dry up your balls" its only sperm (and other liquids) you ejaculate, not hormones.. :D


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:59 pm 
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DaidSS wrote:
Just to comment on the "drying out your balls" thing.. No you can't affect the amount of "steroids" in your body by having sex.. Some people naturally have a bigger amount of testosterone, but that would not show up as a positive on a PED test.. And when you have sex, or "dry up your balls" its only sperm (and other liquids) you ejaculate, not hormones.. :D

This is correct. Artificial testosterone is derived from, and also very similar to the natural testosterone your body(balls) produces. Even so, the testosterone your balls produce is not a steroid, nor a PED. It will not show up on any test no matter how much your balls naturally produce.
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This testosterone is a steroid, and a powerful PED. It will show up as an anabolic PED on tests. I don't know enough about the body to know why it works that way, but it does.
The image above is probably the "natural steroid" Sonnen tested for. Can someone make a creative and funny gif mixing the above pic with one of Chael? :D

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:57 pm 
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Maybe Human growth hormone can be labeled natural steroid or any kind of steroids taken from sperm donors :mrgreen:

Probably it's just label to some juice with organic background without much chemistry, in lack of better knowledge of English terms hehe

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:12 pm 
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At one point i had extremely low testorone levels and they gave me injections of that monthly for 6 months. When i was about 20 and my sex drive should have been at its peak i could barely fire one off. It was called Delatestryl had no idea at that point it was a steriod. The only thing it effected was my sexdrive.

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Natural steroid sounds like pro-hormones or something ??


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:44 am 
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Update -- Fanhouse's A.J. Perez passes along the following information from a conversation with Dodd on Tuesday:

George Dodd, executive officer of the CSAC, told FanHouse on Tuesday that Sonnen's positive test for elevated testosterone was found by UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory using both the common testosterone-epitestosterone (T-E) ratio test along with the more precise carbon isotope ratio (CIR) screening. The CIR test can determine if elevated testosterone levels are the direct result to steroids or other drugs and is typically harder to challenge.

"They did two tests on the sample," Dodd said. "After we got confirmation of the second test, that's when we notified him."

Dodd said Sonnen came to him before the bout and admitted "he was taking something." Dodd said he ordered an inspector to mark Sonnen's statement down on a form before the sample was taken.

As of Tuesday afternoon, Dodd said he had not received notice of an appeal.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/09/21/c ... ated-test/

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:02 pm 
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What i don't understand is if he told the commission before hand he was taking something, why'd it take so long for anything to surface. Makes me wonder why the fight took place if he admitted to cheating beforehand.

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Maybe they thought it was an excuse not to fight and wanted to check the results of the tests before interrupting a mayor event and thousands of angry fans that already had bought tickets.

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