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Author:  dolcca [ Thu May 31, 2012 4:00 pm ]
Post subject:  question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

hi guys!!! as you noticed from the title, i m new member. in fact, i read everything to deeply understand the rules and the "tuto,guide" section, but i still didn't understand 100% overall. i m new member and i dont want to get banned because my ratio is low so:here is some questions that i would like to answer:

-what's better to increase some ratio: downloading then uploading or uploading first then downloading??will one of them help me to download or upload fast??

-i see a topic that says: there is leechers which is good for new members to increase the ratio something like "upload counts only" << i didn't understand and i dont know where leechers loacated in the website.

-after downloading a file in torrent, should i leave to "seed"??if so, i should not close the torrent???

-if we download a file, we should not move it in other specific folder because it wouldn't seed. am i wrong??

-lets say i download a file"test1" that has 1Go. you say that we should not delete in order to seed for other people. which one we should not the torrent file"test1" that has 64 ko or the real file that has 1Gb???

-what's .nfo???when do we use it and who will need to use it??

-if i shut down my computer and restart it 10 hours after(other words: torrent closed or disconnected and re connect), will this makes me troubling in terms of seeding a file or download it????

-i wanna upload(in order to increase my ratio) some bjj instructional dvdfor example (Roy Dean's BJJ Blue Belt Requirements DVD), but i see that it is already posted in mma-torrents and not the same size(mine 1.36 Go, in mma-torrents 1.37 Go), any solution for those???i m sure that we dont post duplicate topic(same dvd).

-which one has higher chance to increase his ratio: the one who has differents files(file1:50mo,file2:50mo,file3:50mo) in total:150 mo, or the one who has one file with 150 mo.

-if i have a dvd that is not complete(means i deleted some other videos that were already include in dvd), can i seed it???

-if i dont upload neither download for a certain time, the ratio change???the ratio is stable or variable??if so, does it goes down or up(assuming i have already some files seeding in torrent).

thank you in advance for answering those questions.

edit: sorry my english is not fluent yet, and sorry again if those questions are stupid questions.

Author:  Dent [ Thu May 31, 2012 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

Hello mate and welcome to the site and tracker!

I understand that you have a lot of questions if you are new to torrents and trackers and its ok to ask, but I will advise you that many questions can be answered by reading our FAQ http://mma-torrents.com/faq.php and using google http://google.com

I think we will all have to help out to answer all your questions because its a little too much for one person, but I guess I will start.

Quote:
-what's better to increase some ratio: downloading then uploading or uploading first then downloading??will one of them help me to download or upload fast??


To increase ratio you must upload as much as possible. In order to upload, you must logically download first so I recommend that you start with that. Nothing will make your uploads "faster" except your Internet Service Provider, it doesnt matter in what order you do things but you must logically start with downloading the file, unless you are making original torrent uploads yourself.


Quote:
-i see a topic that says: there is leechers which is good for new members to increase the ratio something like "upload counts only" << i didn't understand and i dont know where leechers loacated in the website.


Maybe you are refering to FREELEECH = You will not get a reducement on your total downloaded amount while everything you upload will be added to your uploaded amount.

It means leeching that torrent will not affect your download amount and will not decrease your ratio. Meanwhile seeding that torrent will continue to improve your ratio and will increase your upload amount. This is an excellent way to improve your ratio.
Torrents with specific type of content are subject to Freeleech, this is to promote their distribution.

On most BitTorrent tracker sites, the term leecher is used for all users who are not seeders (which means they don't have the complete file yet). Reaching an upload/download ratio of 1:1 (meaning that the user has uploaded as much as he/she has downloaded) in a BitTorrent client is considered a minimum in the etiquette of the BitTorrent network. In the terminology of BitTorrent sites, a leech becomes a seeder (a provider of the file) when he or she finished downloading and continues to run the client. He will remain a seeder until the file is removed or destroyed.


Quote:
-after downloading a file in torrent, should i leave to "seed"??if so, i should not close the torrent???


That is correct. You should not stop or remove the torrent. At east not until it reaches a ratio of 1:1 or you have been seeding it for a very long time without any activity. Note that some files become very popular after some time. A countdown show might not be wanted a month after the event, but a year after collectors might do anything to find them (just an example) so seeding for a long time can be very rewarding!


Quote:
-if we download a file, we should not move it in other specific folder because it wouldn't seed. am i wrong??


Thats wrong because you can actually move it and continue seeding. But it can be a little tricky at first to learn.
This guide can help you: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=1894




I hope that you will get an answer to all your questions with a little patience.

Author:  Dragonfoxy [ Thu May 31, 2012 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

dolcca wrote:
hi guys!!! as you noticed from the title, i m new member. in fact, i read everything to deeply understand the rules and the "tuto,guide" section, but i still didn't understand 100% overall. i m new member and i dont want to get banned because my ratio is low so:here is some questions that i would like to answer:

-what's better to increase some ratio: downloading then uploading or uploading first then downloading??will one of them help me to download or upload fast??

Dent already answered this question but I would advise to start with Freeleech files you wish to have.

-i see a topic that says: there is leechers which is good for new members to increase the ratio something like "upload counts only" << i didn't understand and i dont know where leechers loacated in the website.

As per Dents answer, downloading freeleech files do not increase your download count but can increase your upload count. Compare it with being at a bar and getting free drinks, your buzz gets increased but your wallet stays untouched :P


-after downloading a file in torrent, should i leave to "seed"??if so, i should not close the torrent???

Yes you should keep it seeding for at least 24 hours, preferably 48 hours after your download is finished. Else you can be seen as a hit and runner, meaning one who only wants the stuff and does not want to share his/her speeds.

-if we download a file, we should not move it in other specific folder because it wouldn't seed. am i wrong??

Indeed do not change the folder or rename anything. However when a file is packed you can ofcourse unpack the file and save that file elsewhere. Just leave the packed files where they are.

-lets say i download a file"test1" that has 1Go. you say that we should not delete in order to seed for other people. which one we should not the torrent file"test1" that has 64 ko or the real file that has 1Gb???

Basically same answer as above. Leave your files untouched and the torrent file seeding in your client (utorrent for instance)

-what's .nfo???when do we use it and who will need to use it??

An .nfo is an extra file that often shows extra data of the person/group that created the upload and also often provides information about the files. You can compare this for instance with the book you get when you buy a CD or a very small guide. It is not always needed but does make the upload complete.

-if i shut down my computer and restart it 10 hours after(other words: torrent closed or disconnected and re connect), will this makes me troubling in terms of seeding a file or download it????

It is not like we are Godzilla and will smash you to pieces when this happens once, but the rules do say you need to seed for a certain amount of time after the download is finished and thus you need to comply with the rules. There are ofcourse circumstances that all of us need to reboot or shut the PC, hence the staff will probably not ban you the first time.

-i wanna upload(in order to increase my ratio) some bjj instructional dvdfor example (Roy Dean's BJJ Blue Belt Requirements DVD), but i see that it is already posted in mma-torrents and not the same size(mine 1.36 Go, in mma-torrents 1.37 Go), any solution for those???i m sure that we dont post duplicate topic(same dvd).

If the folder and files are the same but the size is just a bit different then it is probably best to download the torren, appoint it to the folder where your files are located and download it. If they are indeed the same the torrent will start to check the files you have and probably just download the one or two files missing. If it starts to download then stop it immediately and delete the torrent in your client and check what happened. Rechecking does not effect your ratio.

-which one has higher chance to increase his ratio: the one who has differents files(file1:50mo,file2:50mo,file3:50mo) in total:150 mo, or the one who has one file with 150 mo.

If you have more seeds the chances are higher that a file will be downloaded by someone else. It can however happen that no one will download the file, leaving you seeding but not uploading. The biggest chance to increase ratio is that you have a populare file seeding and when not many other people seeding the same file. The longer you seed the less people will be seeding it but new members might not have it and you get in line first when they get it.

-if i have a dvd that is not complete(means i deleted some other videos that were already include in dvd), can i seed it???

When the same file is uploaded you can try to download it and get the rest, then seed (see size question). If it is never uploaded it depends what is missing. If the extras are missing people probably would like to get the DVD you have and you might upload it. If the DVD is worthless then ofcourse no.

-if i dont upload neither download for a certain time, the ratio change???the ratio is stable or variable??if so, does it goes down or up(assuming i have already some files seeding in torrent).

Ratio only changes when you upload or download something. The only exceptions are when you donate or when you win a prize in a competition.

thank you in advance for answering those questions.
You are very welcome ::flower::

edit: sorry my english is not fluent yet, and sorry again if those questions are stupid questions.

Author:  dolcca [ Thu May 31, 2012 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

Dragonfoxy wrote:
-after downloading a file in torrent, should i leave to "seed"??if so, i should not close the torrent???

Yes you should keep it seeding for at least 24 hours, preferably 48 hours after your download is finished. Else you can be seen as a hit and runner, meaning one who only wants the stuff and does not want to share his/her speeds.


you said "seeding for at least 24 hours, preferably 48 hours after your download is finished" this is the case if i want to stop seed i mean remove it right?i can leave it for 1 week even if i know it is very popular file in order to increase the ratio right?

Dragonfoxy wrote:
-what's .nfo???when do we use it and who will need to use it??

An .nfo is an extra file that often shows extra data of the person/group that created the upload and also often provides information about the files. You can compare this for instance with the book you get when you buy a CD or a very small guide. It is not always needed but does make the upload complete.


so if want to upload a file, it is not necessary to use nfo right?i can upload it without nfo?

Dragonfoxy wrote:
-if i shut down my computer and restart it 10 hours after(other words: torrent closed or disconnected and re connect), will this makes me troubling in terms of seeding a file or download it????

It is not like we are Godzilla and will smash you to pieces when this happens once, but the rules do say you need to seed for a certain amount of time after the download is finished and thus you need to comply with the rules. There are ofcourse circumstances that all of us need to reboot or shut the PC, hence the staff will probably not ban you the first time.


well, i just test my conexion with (http://speedtest.net/) and it gives me this result:
ping: 42 ms , download speed:1.38 mbps, upload speed:0.19 mbps
the problem is that i recently downloaded a famous bjj instructional dvd 1.7 Go, and i just see that i seed with 0.4-0.6 ko speed for 2 hours now it doesn't increase why? i already cheked the download/upload speed limitation and it is both "unlimited" means highest speed that can have. so why i have this problem?

Dragonfoxy wrote:
-i wanna upload(in order to increase my ratio) some bjj instructional dvdfor example (Roy Dean's BJJ Blue Belt Requirements DVD), but i see that it is already posted in mma-torrents and not the same size(mine 1.36 Go, in mma-torrents 1.37 Go), any solution for those???i m sure that we dont post duplicate topic(same dvd).

If the folder and files are the same but the size is just a bit different then it is probably best to download the torren, appoint it to the folder where your files are located and download it. If they are indeed the same the torrent will start to check the files you have and probably just download the one or two files missing. If it starts to download then stop it immediately and delete the torrent in your client and check what happened. Rechecking does not effect your ratio.


i m sorry i didn't 100% understand it. you mean that i will use this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvUWezNf7wk in order to become a seeder? i recently checked in mma-torrents and i found that all my DvDs instructionals(downloaded in others:some in websites, some in torrent) are already exist in mma-torrents. so how to seed it or in other words become a seeder of those dvds directly???

Dragonfoxy wrote:
-if i have a dvd that is not complete(means i deleted some other videos that were already include in dvd), can i seed it???

When the same file is uploaded you can try to download it and get the rest, then seed (see size question). If it is never uploaded it depends what is missing. If the extras are missing people probably would like to get the DVD you have and you might upload it. If the DVD is worthless then ofcourse no.


can you show plz this process by videos or pictures??i didn't get it.

i have also some other questions that i forgot to ask it before which are:

-when auto-ban happens?i know i will get banned if my ratio is below 0.4. but the system ban people after cheking his ratio after each download/upload or after 24 hours or after one week.....???

-can you make a video or pictures to explain how to seed a file that you have already have it or download it in other website or other torrent???this is very important for me plz!

thank again guys for answering the questions, they really helped me!

Author:  Dent [ Thu May 31, 2012 11:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

You have 5 basic ways of increasing your ratio:


1. Donate to become VIP and earn free GB's (the best way to get started).

2. Make uploads of original, non uploaded material and earn the upload credit you get from that.

3. Get a lot of Freeleech torrents and seed them for a long time. You can seed them for as long as you like, years if you like, no problems!

4. Participate in competitions in the forum, and hopefully win GB's

5. And of course you can get a seedbox http://dentoo.info/shop and that way for a small expense get a great ratio boost on every new torrent.


You can also do work in the forum or site in other way, helping out the community and earn the admins respect and that way get some extra credit and maybe a profile upgrade but thats a long term project ;)

Author:  Bangtail [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

dolcca wrote:
Dragonfoxy wrote:

When the same file is uploaded you can try to download it and get the rest, then seed (see size question). If it is never uploaded it depends what is missing. If the extras are missing people probably would like to get the DVD you have and you might upload it. If the DVD is worthless then ofcourse no.


can you show plz this process by videos or pictures??i didn't get it.

i have also some other questions that i forgot to ask it before which are:

-when auto-ban happens?i know i will get banned if my ratio is below 0.4. but the system ban people after cheking his ratio after each download/upload or after 24 hours or after one week.....???

-can you make a video or pictures to explain how to seed a file that you have already have it or download it in other website or other torrent???this is very important for me plz!

thank again guys for answering the questions, they really helped me!



As Dent mentioned the far better way is to donate to the site at least to get you started initially. That will give you a buffer until you get used to things.
Download as many freeleech torrents, they have stars beside them.

If you have an existing torrent and you want to cross seed to gain UL credit you have to make sure the torrent name is the same as well as the files within the torrent.

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In this image the torrent "The.Ultimate.Fighter.S25E09.HDTV.264-aAF" is the torrent file and below is the listing of the files in the torrent. So if you have downloaded "The.Ultimate.Fighter.S25E09.HDTV.264-aAF" from another site you simply DL the torrent file from MMA-Torrents and open it in Utorrent. Providing the file list is the same you will see two instances of that torrent, one from where you originally got it and the other from MMA-Torrents.

Here is an example of a cross seeded torrent.

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The torrent file UFC.Tonight.2012.01.01.WS.DSR.XviD-KYR is the cross seeded torrent. You will notice that the files sizes are not the same. The top one is from another site and the second from MMA-Torrents. If you were to have the smaller sized torrent and wanted to cross seed with the larger one your client would simple download the missing files. If you have the larger of the torrents and are cross seeding nothing further will be downloaded. As you can see the only difference is one has a sample folder and the other doesn't. It may seem confusing, but once you get used to it it's not too bad.

Unfortunately your UL speed is fairly slow so it will be difficult to gain UL credit unless you keep your computer on always and seed for a long period. Seedboxes are the best way to build ratio as mentioned.

Hope that helps a little and stick with it, I'm sure you'll get the hang of it. You have already gotten a lot of info already from the above posts.

Best of Luck

Author:  dolcca [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

thank you guys! now i understood everything, exept one which is:

i downloaded "Roy Dean Blue Belt Requirements" from other private site, and i want to seed it to mma-torrents and this file i put it in E: while my torrent download folder is located in C:. so the question is: in order to seed it, should move first the file "Roy Dean Blue Belt Requirements" which is located in E: to "C:\Documents and Settings\Mes documents\Downloads" and start seeding or we can keep it in his place (in E:) and seed it directly to mma-torrents???

Author:  Dent [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

dolcca wrote:
thank you guys! now i understood everything, exept one which is:

i downloaded "Roy Dean Blue Belt Requirements" from other private site, and i want to seed it to mma-torrents and this file i put it in E: while my torrent download folder is located in C:. so the question is: in order to seed it, should move first the file "Roy Dean Blue Belt Requirements" which is located in E: to "C:\Documents and Settings\Mes documents\Downloads" and start seeding or we can keep it in his place (in E:) and seed it directly to mma-torrents???


You can keep it in the same place.

Follow this guide: http://www.mma-torrents.com/foru/viewto ... =83&t=1894


There is also another way of doing it.

Start the download of the torrent from our tracker.
Rightclick the torrent in your torrent client and choose "stop".
Then rightclick it again and choose "advanced" -> "Set Download Location" then in the browse window find the folder where you have the files ( E:\path\to\files ) and click "Choose".
Rightclick the torrent in your torrent client again and choose "Force Re-check".
When it reaches 100% rightclick it and choose "Start".

Author:  dolcca [ Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

thanks guys! can you plz explain me this problem i got it, after i download some files(some from mma-torrents, some i have it already), i see that my files are in "seeding situation", but the problem is that i dont see any of them seeding means uploading to other people. as you can see in the picture, they are all inactifs which is really strange because they are popular files. is it normal??

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Author:  Dragonfoxy [ Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: question about building ratio,utorrent,leechers...

The inactive status means that you are not downloading the file or uploading the file. As your ? in the pic shows.

However you are seeding the file which means you are offering it to others to download from you. Once someone downloads the file it will become active because you will be uploading something..
Compare seeding a file with an item in a store. The store has an item on offer but only if someone buys it there will be activity, if no one ever buys it it will not give the store owner a profit.

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