They have been after streams since years now, this is basicly same news as 2-3 years ago, and I understand why. Its not same to compete with the PPV streaming it live... as sharing a recorded copy afterwards. I dont think this will affect us. But thanks for the heads up.

i get why they are pissed off and trying to stop this...
but the ufc has to realise that people using streams are never going to pay for it anyway...
they use the streams BECAUSE they dont want to pay...
i will watch a ufc event if its on tv for free...
i will go to the pub to watch ufc ppv's for free...
i will even get anally raped on ticket prices to go see ufc events live...
but i would never pay to watch anything on ppv... its waaaaay too expensive and pointless...
plus you can just download it for free afew hours later...
if its results you seek check wiki or mmaweekly for live results...

the point im trying to make is this...
the people they are trying to stop will never pay anyway...
so ufc can either let them enjoy the brand and keep afew more (albeit deadbeat) fans...
or they can shut those sites down and lose those casual fans they could have kept...

its like people who pay for shit on itunes...
i feel like punching those people in the face really hard and saying "you can get that shit for free so WAKE THE FUCK UP!"

I think you just described every user of this wonderful site. We hate paying for PPV, we watch it if its available free at home or a bar/pub, we download the event anyway when we get home from any activity, especially when we get home from watching the event live to add the goodness to our libraries, if we did have a chance we would have checked the results before downloading or for those of us who don't like spoiling then would wait like a kid for a christmas present. I think this is why as kids we always want to be little pirates, and in a way this dream lives all the way through adulthood.

I only disagree with you about the people who buy shit on iTunes. Yes, it can all be obtained for free. However, we need those people to mask our presence. Otherwise, the industry might get more vigilant on finding the pirates finding us and making an example. Just like you would buy an expensive ticket to see a live UFC event, someone else might love an artist to contribute $1.49 for their work or whatever the cost of a song on itunes is.

Think of us as the few that are blessed with this knowledge


much love, peace

We are so small part of UFC fans (omitted MMA intentionally) that anyone hired by Zuffa can't be arsed about us cos they are probably paid by effective work. Before trying to bring us down they would probably become members and as everyone they could see stats of completed downloads of all UFC 125 main event releases for example. I think they have more motivation tracking down pubs who pay casual PPV rates instead of ones for public places.

As I've mentioned in one of previous threads; geographically most of the downloads are from countries where UFC isn't available in any form, PPV or FTA. Are we doing any harm to Zuffa? No! Even if we were all from USA just by looking at all releases of 125 PPV we are insignificant.

What was my knowledge of UFC before I started digging into MMA sharing communities? Bunch of weak gays fighting in a cage on Playstation. Cover was equally gay with one fag kneeing other fag. Now I know it was Tito kneeing Mask and reason for calling them fag and gay was cos only thing we knew was that all UFC fighters got destroyed outside USA. Accuracy of that is questionable but I'm just telling what perception of UFC was in my part of the world.

I doubt that I'm alone with MMA sharing being actual gateway to UFC. I still don't have access to PPV or FTA beside streams but I have access to buying UFC merchandise and so do others. UFC doesn't see a dime from me for PPV but they sure did for that shirt standing meter away from me or for some other goodies.

Fact also remains that

* Even if you pay for the PPV you might want to keep a nice archive of the events with prelimns etc. If you forgot to DVR an event you would be f-ed if it wasnt for what we do. (You might not even own a DVR).

* We create new UFC fans! If you are hesitant and want to learn more this is the place! After watching a few events you will end up buying a ticket to a live event, getting a PPV or buying dvds or merchandize 100% once you get hooked. I know I did.

* We are not competitng with the PPV. We are archiving it for an eternal future wich should be good for the world as a whole in a longer perspective. What we do is create an incredible archive of material that can benefit both people that want to become UFC fighters and people that are huge UFC fans. Without us 99% of all the material would be LOST! Im sure that in 100 years people will look back at torrents and filesharing as something that saved history for the future in a never before seen way. Not even the world wide web itself with all its webpages can claim to archive as much important material as the people using the sharing communities effectively do.

* Our members are international from all over the world and over 50% are not from the USA. This means that in many cases we cant even get the channels or broadcasters necesarry to watch the events or tv shows. If it wasnt for being able to download them we would never ever have become MMA fans. We would simply not know it existed. There wouldnt be pressure on our local broadcasters to start doing PPV's or MMA related shows. There would be no political pressure to legalize MMA in our countries. Hell, we wouldnt even know we loved MMA! This is our saviour and why we could become fans!

These are just a few reasons out of thousands why there is no reason to persecute us and Im sure that Zuffa is aware of them.

i have no dvr...