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Author: | subvertbeats [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:27 am ] |
Post subject: | UFC to sue individuals for PPV piracy |
http://mmajunkie.com/news/17426/ufc-off ... ckdown.mma Quote: UFC officials vow to sue individuals for pay-per-view piracy in forthcoming crackdown
by Steven Marrocco on Jan 04, 2010 at 10:35 pm ET LAS VEGAS — Mixed martial arts fans who watch pirated internet content could soon be pressed against the cage says the president of an industry-leading fight promotion. In a move that could signal a sea change in the viral presence of MMA — the burgeoning sport of caged pugilism — Dana White, president of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, said his company is readying a legal assault on individuals and websites that deal in unauthorized content. "When people start going to jail, people will stop doing it," White said. The pay-per-view industry, of which the UFC has emerged as one of the most profitable players with an estimated $349 million in revenue in 2009, is the latest front in a war between consumers who want free content and entertainment companies with a product to protect. The weapon of choice for digital thieves: streaming video websites that beam live pay-per-view signals to their home computers, free of charge. UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta testified for the U.S. House Judiciary Committee earlier this month during a referendum on internet piracy of sporting events and said his anti-piracy team had uncovered 271 illegal streams of UFC 106 with over 140,000 viewers. "The piracy of live sporting events is illegal, it kills jobs, and it threatens the expansion of U.S. based companies," Fertitta told lawmakers. "The UFC is potentially losing millions of dollars a year from piracy." Thus far, the music and movie industries have been at the forefront of efforts to stop the spread of online piracy. The first shot was fired in 1999, when the Recording Industry Association of America sued online file sharing company Napster for copyright infringement. Since then, the black market for content — and the technology to provide it — has exploded in popularity. Despite massive campaigns to educate fans on the illegal practice, streaming and sharing websites have become big business and are virtually impossible to curb when hosted in countries with lax copyright laws. In recent years, the RIAA has begun suing individuals for illegal downloading, a practice that carries on today. Hollywood has targeted websites that carry pirated movies. Last July, Warner Bros. launched a massive campaign to halt the illegal download of "The Dark Knight" but failed to stem a tide of leaks and links that allowed seven million people to watch the blockbuster movie, according to The New York Times. The fight industry has by and large limited their anti-piracy efforts to the online equivalent of a cease-and-desist, contacting websites that carry illegal content with a notice that they are in violation of copyright laws. Websites like Justin.tv, one of the biggest online streaming video websites, typically remove illegal broadcast feeds, though they often harbor links to sites that carry other feeds. An angry White said his company had been considering legal action for years but mounting losses had forced action. "It's going to be a battle, man," White said. "It's going to be a battle, but I'm ready to [expletive] fight. "We're gonna go after them, we're gonna go after them hard, and we're gonna hurt them." Lawrence Epstein, the UFC's general legal counsel, said the company could subpoena websites that carry illegal content for the IP addresses and user information of people who watch and download UFC fights, though he declined to say when that would happen. "We're looking at all of our legal options, and I wouldn't rule out anything when it comes to fighting this problem," Epstein said. White said the UFC's anti-piracy team monitors illegal streams during events and aggressively pursues offending websites, though he admitted suing websites and individuals would be a costly effort. "[Piracy] hasn't cost us anything compared to what it's going to cost us to go after these guys," White said. "It's gonna cost us a lot of money, but guess what — it's gonna cost them a lot of money. It's gonna get to the point where it's like, you know what, [expletive] it, maybe we shouldn't pirate MMA any more. "You got these websites like Justin.tv, and they pirate all kinds of things. They play all kinds of [expletive] on there. Well, we're gonna make it where it's not worth it to put UFC events up on the website." And with at least 12 pay-per-view events per year — at $44.95 a pop, $55.95 for the HD version — UFC fans may be forced to ask if it's worth it. Currently, the promotion has two authorized providers of internet pay-per-view – UFC.com, and Yahoo! Sports – at the same price as the standard television broadcast. Epstein says the internet price is mandated by the promotion's contract with pay-per-view providers like DirecTV and DISH Network and cannot be lowered. Epstein says an average of eight to ten people split a legal UFC pay-per-view broadcast, bringing the price down to around $5 a head (plus beer and pizza), and events are often available in bars and clubs around the city. But for many fans under 21 — the so-called "Generation Wired" — the choice is simple. UFC commentator Joe Rogan understands the promotion's plight but thinks an Internet crackdown is an unnecessary step. "I think that kind of stifles innovation," Rogan said. "It stifles the direction the Internet is going. I like things being out there. I think people are always going to buy UFC pay-per-views. You're going to get a much better experience watching it on your television than all stretched out looking fuzzy and pixilated. "They're trying to protect their money, but the Internet is a strange animal." Epstein said the UFC had joined a coalition of major sports franchises including the NFL, MLB, and NCAA, and planned to lobby lawmakers to get tough on piracy. "Are there always going to be people that are going to steal? Yeah," said Epstein. "There are going to be people that rob convenience stores and banks, too. You can put up bars, you can put up cameras, but people continue to do bad things. You're not going to stop all of it. "I think this is about stopping the good majority of law-abiding citizens who, without education, might not understand that what they're doing is not the right thing to do." (Pictured: Dana White) This story originally ran on VancouverSun.com and is reprinted here with permission. The piece is also expected to run in the Business section of Tuesday's edition of The Vancouver Sun. |
Author: | jnrpepaseed [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UFC to sue individuals for PPV piracy |
what about people who cap event after is it the same? |
Author: | subvertbeats [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:51 pm ] |
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imagine so. how successful they will be is an altogether different story. I find it interesting that a company as dynamic and seemingly forward thinking as UFC is making such moves. They should look at better ways to monetize, as Im positive that download sites like this have only serverd to increase the popularity of the UFC and MMA in general |
Author: | Bigfan70 [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:25 pm ] |
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UFC is based on a capitalist model which thrives on greed. Nobody is sitting with eight or ten friends around a tv trying to watch fights. I am pretty sure some people who watch the feeds are unable to afford the PPV price. UFC has been good to fans with their free live events on Spike but have cheapened their own product by airing as many watered down events as possible. This is done to maximize profit and deter competition. The quality of UFC events has slowly gone down while Zuffa bank account grows and grows. A few scapegoats will get screwed just like those that got fined for downloading mp3's. People still get free music... I hope Rogan does not get fired for speaking his mind. He is the only one with any sense of reality. |
Author: | Naeblis [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:55 pm ] |
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As I said in the other post about this recently, it's a false economy they're claiming anyway - I'm sure the majority of downloaders (although probably not streamers - I do not know of a single place to stream the event) will be located outside the USA, so they were never lost sales in the first place. Simply looking at download counters on torrent sites, etc., and then saying they have a huge problem is either delusional or just a lie. With my tin foil hat firmly on, I reckon there is some form of grant/relief package avaiable for these big companies who claim piracy is killing them. I know here in the UK it is part of law for suing people that you yourself must limit your losses - or at least be seen to do so unsucessfully - so if they say "we're profitable and trying to grow even further, but we can't because of all these pirates", they get given money. Quote: "[Piracy] hasn't cost us anything compared to what it's going to cost us to go after these guys," White said. "It's gonna cost us a lot of money, but guess what — it's gonna cost them a lot of money. It's gonna get to the point where it's like, you know what, [expletive] it, maybe we shouldn't pirate MMA any more. But it won't. It didn't for music or movies. It just makes people mad at your company and even more keen to leak products and pirate instead of buying. The only thing that lowers game piracy rates, for example, is not putting any Digital Rights Management on your game disc and not limitting the number of installs, etc. Then you say about how much you respect your audience, etc. That way people like you and buy your products. The only other way that works is to drop your prices so more people find it easier to just stump up the cash for your product than waste time and energy getting an inferior pirate copy. Knock $10 off a PPV and see how much your buy rates grow as a test - especially one when people claim that the card is "weak". And good on Joe Rogan. Tell it like it is, brother |
Author: | subvertbeats [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:03 pm ] |
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great post Ob....spot on... |
Author: | jrhendrix [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UFC to sue individuals for PPV piracy |
Good luck with that, UFC. I hope it works out as well for them as it did for the music industry. |
Author: | ferncakes [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:10 pm ] |
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long live piracy |
Author: | DasGuntLord01 [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UFC to sue individuals for PPV piracy |
Joe Rogan wrote: "I think that kind of stifles innovation," Rogan said. "It stifles the direction the Internet is going. I like things being out there. I think people are always going to buy UFC pay-per-views. You're going to get a much better experience watching it on your television than all stretched out looking fuzzy and pixilated. "They're trying to protect their money, but the Internet is a strange animal." This man has it spot on. The reason I pirate them is because I do not have access to the PPV, since I don't have cable. Since I am not the house owner here, I can't get cable. If I had the opportunity I would get pay TV because I want to watch all the MMA I can get my hands on, live. The UFC never lost a dollar on my account. The second thing I want to say about my personal experience is that I never knew MMA existed until I got a mention from a freind (who also pirated it). The first event I downloaded was Fight for the Troops, which I now understand was a substandard card, but my god I fell in love instantly! Now I can't get enough! |
Author: | Dent [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: UFC to sue individuals for PPV piracy |
Get a seedbox, a VPN or whatever and they cant do shit, Filesharing is already a part of who we are, there is no stopping it. Im not worried. |
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